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		<title>By: Walter</title>
		<link>http://blankanvas.bypatlaw.com/lead-story/what-bloggers-should-know-about-pr/2009/01/27/comment-page-1/#comment-5049</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 08:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points there.  I would like to add another, and that is that not all bloggers are equal (just like not all media channels are equal).  You cannot expect me to give you an exclusive or sneak peek unless you have a big enough (or influential enough) readership/surfership for my organisation&#039;s purposes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points there.  I would like to add another, and that is that not all bloggers are equal (just like not all media channels are equal).  You cannot expect me to give you an exclusive or sneak peek unless you have a big enough (or influential enough) readership/surfership for my organisation&#8217;s purposes.</p>
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		<title>By: naeboo</title>
		<link>http://blankanvas.bypatlaw.com/lead-story/what-bloggers-should-know-about-pr/2009/01/27/comment-page-1/#comment-5041</link>
		<dc:creator>naeboo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think kenny just feels the pressure coz he doesnt  understand how PR works. and how those expectations dont necessarily HAS TO translate to coverage. (and he&#039;s the type who is too nice to just  flatly say NO)

of coz after every event, a PR practitioner (with extra time to follow-up with calls or emails instead of impatiently waiting for mentions and articles to come out somewhere) will spend the same amount of time &quot;checking on/with&quot; a journo (as much as a blogger) to report to the client on event coverage, even as a courtesy call. kenny and any other persons not used to the PR clogs on their backs will see this as pressure to deliver.

&quot;new&quot; or old media reps shld be treated the same: with respect and courtesy. 

i believe it&#039;s a mixture of how bloggers demand to be treated &quot;the same/on par&quot; with journos;   how they mistake being invited to go to events as being &quot;so cool&quot;; journos being generally skeptical of self-appointed/publically well-received *writers* will be doing as professional a job as they do  and how some clients dont place as much emphasis on bloggers etc.. throw a very hard situation for those involved to manoeuvre. 

expecting and handing out money are typical habits of lazy ppl who believe in shortcuts in life, esply in PR. let&#039;s leave that to the advertising ppl. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think kenny just feels the pressure coz he doesnt  understand how PR works. and how those expectations dont necessarily HAS TO translate to coverage. (and he&#8217;s the type who is too nice to just  flatly say NO)</p>
<p>of coz after every event, a PR practitioner (with extra time to follow-up with calls or emails instead of impatiently waiting for mentions and articles to come out somewhere) will spend the same amount of time &#8220;checking on/with&#8221; a journo (as much as a blogger) to report to the client on event coverage, even as a courtesy call. kenny and any other persons not used to the PR clogs on their backs will see this as pressure to deliver.</p>
<p>&#8220;new&#8221; or old media reps shld be treated the same: with respect and courtesy. </p>
<p>i believe it&#8217;s a mixture of how bloggers demand to be treated &#8220;the same/on par&#8221; with journos;   how they mistake being invited to go to events as being &#8220;so cool&#8221;; journos being generally skeptical of self-appointed/publically well-received *writers* will be doing as professional a job as they do  and how some clients dont place as much emphasis on bloggers etc.. throw a very hard situation for those involved to manoeuvre. </p>
<p>expecting and handing out money are typical habits of lazy ppl who believe in shortcuts in life, esply in PR. let&#8217;s leave that to the advertising ppl. <img src='http://blankanvas.bypatlaw.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Spleep</title>
		<link>http://blankanvas.bypatlaw.com/lead-story/what-bloggers-should-know-about-pr/2009/01/27/comment-page-1/#comment-5035</link>
		<dc:creator>Spleep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah Pat dont worry about me.... i was just whinging about the &#039;Snap Shot&#039; thingys interrupting my reading. Just grinds my goat is all :-\</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah Pat dont worry about me&#8230;. i was just whinging about the &#8216;Snap Shot&#8217; thingys interrupting my reading. Just grinds my goat is all :-\</p>
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		<title>By: Cneil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cneil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Were members of the press ever really treated like royalty?  Members of the press that I know call someone on the phone, show up when there is a need, and write with the most mainstream voice that they can muster.  

 If you don&#039;t entertain the bloggers, they may do the same.  The bloggers are liable to show up for five minutes, eat the food, ask a few questions so they can fill in quotes for an article that they&#039;ve already written, earn the bragging rights, and then leave.  

If a member of the press does get special treatment, it usually isn&#039;t the one that writes the article.  It is the news director, the spouse of the advertising manager, or the GM. None of these people actually create the content that is broadcast.

I think it is kind of dumb when bloggers think they need to be treated like celebrities.  Heck, I think it is dumb when celebrities think that they need to be treated like celebrities.  But I imagine that stroking the ego of a certain type of blogger ego might help further the aims of the ad agencies.  So what if the blog post focuses more on the &quot;helicopter ride&quot; than the product? The end result still made people think about the brand of the helicopter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Were members of the press ever really treated like royalty?  Members of the press that I know call someone on the phone, show up when there is a need, and write with the most mainstream voice that they can muster.  </p>
<p> If you don&#8217;t entertain the bloggers, they may do the same.  The bloggers are liable to show up for five minutes, eat the food, ask a few questions so they can fill in quotes for an article that they&#8217;ve already written, earn the bragging rights, and then leave.  </p>
<p>If a member of the press does get special treatment, it usually isn&#8217;t the one that writes the article.  It is the news director, the spouse of the advertising manager, or the GM. None of these people actually create the content that is broadcast.</p>
<p>I think it is kind of dumb when bloggers think they need to be treated like celebrities.  Heck, I think it is dumb when celebrities think that they need to be treated like celebrities.  But I imagine that stroking the ego of a certain type of blogger ego might help further the aims of the ad agencies.  So what if the blog post focuses more on the &#8220;helicopter ride&#8221; than the product? The end result still made people think about the brand of the helicopter.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Law™</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat Law™</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm. Good question, &lt;strong&gt;tinkertailor&lt;/strong&gt;. Will any female blogger admit to having a sugar daddy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm. Good question, <strong>tinkertailor</strong>. Will any female blogger admit to having a sugar daddy?</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Law™</title>
		<link>http://blankanvas.bypatlaw.com/lead-story/what-bloggers-should-know-about-pr/2009/01/27/comment-page-1/#comment-5025</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat Law™</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pleasure&#039;s all mine, &lt;strong&gt;Spleep&lt;/strong&gt;. How do you mean by the ://URLFAN popup though? Do you mean there are popups on my blog? Gosh I hope not!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pleasure&#8217;s all mine, <strong>Spleep</strong>. How do you mean by the ://URLFAN popup though? Do you mean there are popups on my blog? Gosh I hope not!</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Law™</title>
		<link>http://blankanvas.bypatlaw.com/lead-story/what-bloggers-should-know-about-pr/2009/01/27/comment-page-1/#comment-5024</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat Law™</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. I have the famous &lt;strong&gt;kennysia&lt;/strong&gt; commenting on my blog. I&#039;m extremely flattered.

My team and I do not, and will not, talk shit about anyone who did not blog about our events. I don&#039;t see why we should. The fundamental purpose of us inviting bloggers (aka the key influencers) to our events is to expose them to our brands and hopefully, affect them enough to want to talk about us, either on or offline. Anything else as a result is a bonus.

I do understand what you mean by PR agencies sometimes expecting free publicity with each invite. While we do not expect every blogger invited to talk about our event, I have to admit the blog posts do affect our KPI. For example &quot;&lt;em&gt;For every 10 bloggers, X blogged about the event&lt;/em&gt;&quot;. We have reports like that to churn for each event. So yes, it does matter to us. 

That is not to say that we demand blog posts. We certainly do not fancy forcing anyone to blog about us, especially if they don&#039;t wish to. We&#039;re sappy romantic mutts, in that sense. We don&#039;t fancy arranged marriages. We like the idea of having someone fall in love with us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I have the famous <strong>kennysia</strong> commenting on my blog. I&#8217;m extremely flattered.</p>
<p>My team and I do not, and will not, talk shit about anyone who did not blog about our events. I don&#8217;t see why we should. The fundamental purpose of us inviting bloggers (aka the key influencers) to our events is to expose them to our brands and hopefully, affect them enough to want to talk about us, either on or offline. Anything else as a result is a bonus.</p>
<p>I do understand what you mean by PR agencies sometimes expecting free publicity with each invite. While we do not expect every blogger invited to talk about our event, I have to admit the blog posts do affect our KPI. For example &#8220;<em>For every 10 bloggers, X blogged about the event</em>&#8220;. We have reports like that to churn for each event. So yes, it does matter to us. </p>
<p>That is not to say that we demand blog posts. We certainly do not fancy forcing anyone to blog about us, especially if they don&#8217;t wish to. We&#8217;re sappy romantic mutts, in that sense. We don&#8217;t fancy arranged marriages. We like the idea of having someone fall in love with us.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Law™</title>
		<link>http://blankanvas.bypatlaw.com/lead-story/what-bloggers-should-know-about-pr/2009/01/27/comment-page-1/#comment-5023</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat Law™</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spot on, &lt;strong&gt;Hillary&lt;/strong&gt;. The helicopter ride might serve as a distraction indeed. I&#039;ve read plenty of posts from bloggers talking about their helicopter rides, but nothing too positive about the product at all. Which makes me wonder what I&#039;d think if I&#039;m the client. Hmm. My PR agency knows how to throw a kickass party? I&#039;d rather be part of the PR agency that knows how to market a product. Party planners, I can find off Yellow Pages very easily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on, <strong>Hillary</strong>. The helicopter ride might serve as a distraction indeed. I&#8217;ve read plenty of posts from bloggers talking about their helicopter rides, but nothing too positive about the product at all. Which makes me wonder what I&#8217;d think if I&#8217;m the client. Hmm. My PR agency knows how to throw a kickass party? I&#8217;d rather be part of the PR agency that knows how to market a product. Party planners, I can find off Yellow Pages very easily.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Law™</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat Law™</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love being part of the team too, &lt;strong&gt;T&lt;/strong&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love being part of the team too, <strong>T</strong>.</p>
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		<title>By: Tania</title>
		<link>http://blankanvas.bypatlaw.com/lead-story/what-bloggers-should-know-about-pr/2009/01/27/comment-page-1/#comment-5017</link>
		<dc:creator>Tania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat, this is why I love having you on the team. You GET IT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat, this is why I love having you on the team. You GET IT.</p>
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